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Q-07:
Venerable Sir, a friend of mine said: “to eliminate
craving (tanha) one must eliminate feeling (vedana)."
He was referring: “craving is ceased
on the cessation of feeling (vedana nirodha tanha
nirodho)” of Dependent Origination.
I told him that as long as there is consciousness (citta)
there will be feeling (vedana), and
consciousness (citta) will be there
throughout the life circle of a person (samsara),
except on two occasions – when the person enters
into nirodha-samaapatti which is attainment
of cessation of consciousness and cessation of
matters caused by consciousness, and when the person
attains final liberation (nibbana).
The problem is I maintain that feeling (vedanaa)
cannot be eliminated. My friend maintains that
feeling (vedanaa) must be eliminated so that
craving (tanha) will not arise. Can you tell
us who is right and who is wrong?
Respectfully,
Dr Han Tun
A-07: Dr Han
Tun, both of you are right.
Feeling arises in all conscious beings. Because
feeling is a universal mental property (sabbacittasadharanacetasika)
associating with all types of consciousness.
Where there is consciousness there will be feeling. And,
according to the Dependent Origination, craving
ceases on the cessation of feeling. Moreover it is
true that craving
arises depending on feeling.
In this case "feeling and craving" should be
focused. And I understand that the most important
thing is "cessation of craving."
As said above craving arises depending on feeling.
However this is a general truth. In other words, this is
true for ordinary people.
Actually
craving can never arise in arahants who have
eradicated inherent tendencies (anusaya). In this regard feeling is a
condition for craving, but it (craving) cannot arise
without inherent tendencies.
As for meditators, a
feeling can be a meditation object (vedananupassana).
For them, liberation is possible when feeling is
meditated with mindfulness and wisdom. If they are
successful in this meditation, any kind of feeling
will never be a cause of craving. But a certain
feeling can lead them to the attainment of the
highest wisdom (arahatta-magga-panna) with
which they attain the final liberation (nibbana).
Suppose you are
practicing Vipassana meditation and you are
making notes of your present feeling. For example
you have a pleasant feeling and you make notes of
this feeling. You note: "feeling, feeling, feeling .
. ." By this, you understand that this feeling
arises and disappears. You see the true nature of
this feeling. But you do not have craving for
this feeling. This is your momentary success.
This subject matter is a part of the Dependent
Origination which is profound. You are recommended
to learn more about the Dependent Origination. Some
more explanation of this subject matter will be
given by Bhante U Cittara.
With Metta,
Ashin Acara
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